Vertical Carving Mixture Design - Non Brandname - The Vertical Artisans Forum2024-03-28T09:46:54Zhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/forum/topics/2294914:Topic:3799?commentId=2294914%3AComment%3A163864&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Jim, Sorry for the late re…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2015-03-24:2294914:Comment:1721582015-03-24T11:49:46.375Znathan trevorhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/nathantrevor
<p>Hi Jim, Sorry for the late return. Project turned out great top training, will flick you a email this week got a couple ideas I would like to talk to you about. </p>
<p>Hi Jim, Sorry for the late return. Project turned out great top training, will flick you a email this week got a couple ideas I would like to talk to you about. </p> Nathan, call me. I wanted to…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-09-24:2294914:Comment:1638642014-09-24T04:42:12.189ZJim P. Jenkinshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/JamesPJenkins
Nathan, call me. I wanted to see how your project turned out.
Nathan, call me. I wanted to see how your project turned out. No you can buy it by the Pail…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1101512012-10-12T14:02:22.210ZNathan Giffin Vertical Artisanshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/3ucr8q1tge3t5
<p>No you can buy it by the Pail....</p>
<p>Pricing Structure</p>
<p>Comp A = $50.00/ pail, $500/ drum</p>
<p>Comp B = Same as component “A”</p>
<p>Comp C = $21.00/ gallon, $90.00/ pail One pail makes 50 Gallons</p>
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<p>These are pretty much standard items with a small dosage twist and some magic dust.</p>
<p>These Products are sold by Concrete Earth at <a href="http://www.ConcreteEarth.com" target="_blank">www.ConcreteEarth.com</a></p>
<p>No you can buy it by the Pail....</p>
<p>Pricing Structure</p>
<p>Comp A = $50.00/ pail, $500/ drum</p>
<p>Comp B = Same as component “A”</p>
<p>Comp C = $21.00/ gallon, $90.00/ pail One pail makes 50 Gallons</p>
<p></p>
<p>These are pretty much standard items with a small dosage twist and some magic dust.</p>
<p>These Products are sold by Concrete Earth at <a href="http://www.ConcreteEarth.com" target="_blank">www.ConcreteEarth.com</a></p> Why is Stonemakers 5 gallons…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1100242012-10-12T11:10:12.350ZGeorgehttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/George
<p>Why is Stonemakers 5 gallons and One Day Walls 55 gallons?</p>
<p>Or does One Day Walls also add only 5-10 gallons to a truck? (and sell only by the drum)</p>
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<p>And where would someone "add to cart" the One Day Walls product?</p>
<p>Why is Stonemakers 5 gallons and One Day Walls 55 gallons?</p>
<p>Or does One Day Walls also add only 5-10 gallons to a truck? (and sell only by the drum)</p>
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<p>And where would someone "add to cart" the One Day Walls product?</p> stonemakers is for retaining…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1100232012-10-12T06:08:30.314ZNathan Giffin Vertical Artisanshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/3ucr8q1tge3t5
stonemakers is for retaining walls... Your not gonna order up 7 yards of mix and then add the additives and then do a grout or dry stack look without 6 artists...... Different system apples and oranges.....<br />
And by the way if you think stonemakers add mixtures are inexpensive ... Then just ask those who buy it....<br />
I've heard some pricing as high as 300 a pail....<br />
One day walls is 500 a drum
stonemakers is for retaining walls... Your not gonna order up 7 yards of mix and then add the additives and then do a grout or dry stack look without 6 artists...... Different system apples and oranges.....<br />
And by the way if you think stonemakers add mixtures are inexpensive ... Then just ask those who buy it....<br />
I've heard some pricing as high as 300 a pail....<br />
One day walls is 500 a drum Some of these details that ar…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1102662012-10-12T03:35:40.408Zjeff kirt/ kirtbag Carving mixhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/jeffkirt
<p>Some of these details that are being discussed are still untrue.My phone number is on my website and here on the forum. I am more than happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have with my mix or others. I can clear up any issues you may have. Thanks</p>
<p>Some of these details that are being discussed are still untrue.My phone number is on my website and here on the forum. I am more than happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have with my mix or others. I can clear up any issues you may have. Thanks</p> The bagged mixes and the ston…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1100212012-10-12T02:53:05.099ZChristian Maucierihttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/ChristianMaucieri
The bagged mixes and the stonemakers system is for two different applications. The bags are great for small projects requiring great detail. If you are doing a 70 ft retaining wall then yes you may want to look at a different way of doing it. Contact Nathan about the one day walls system. I believe that will satisfy your needs.
The bagged mixes and the stonemakers system is for two different applications. The bags are great for small projects requiring great detail. If you are doing a 70 ft retaining wall then yes you may want to look at a different way of doing it. Contact Nathan about the one day walls system. I believe that will satisfy your needs. I stand corrected on the amou…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1101472012-10-12T02:35:28.138ZGeorgehttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/George
<p>I stand corrected on the amount of carvable material kirtbag makes.</p>
<p>The main point I was trying to make is that there are additives like the one Stonemakers uses that are vastly, vastly, vastly more efficient it seems.</p>
<p>Let's say I was building a 3 foot tall, 70 foot long retaining wall. That's 210 square feet. I think the video showed kirtbag being 1 and eigth inch thick which is ok for a faux rock carving. It would cost me $480-$630 to smear a kirtbag mix on. That still…</p>
<p>I stand corrected on the amount of carvable material kirtbag makes.</p>
<p>The main point I was trying to make is that there are additives like the one Stonemakers uses that are vastly, vastly, vastly more efficient it seems.</p>
<p>Let's say I was building a 3 foot tall, 70 foot long retaining wall. That's 210 square feet. I think the video showed kirtbag being 1 and eigth inch thick which is ok for a faux rock carving. It would cost me $480-$630 to smear a kirtbag mix on. That still doesn't account for the cost of the concrete for the wall structure, or the work to mix and apply the kirtbag product.</p>
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<p>The stonemakers (mystery to me) additive adds only $150 to the cost of the ready mix, and is already on it so I don't have to mix anything or smear anything. I'd just start carving.</p>
<p>I wish someone would just tell me what that dark brown liquid they are using is..."Wall builder" or even better sell it to me.</p> George, it may be.tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1102652012-10-12T02:28:16.676ZTru Pac/Walttools/Donhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/Don
<p>George, it may be.</p>
<p>George, it may be.</p> George, making your own OR ge…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-10-12:2294914:Comment:1101442012-10-12T02:26:05.160ZTru Pac/Walttools/Donhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/Don
<p>George, making your own OR getting a good ad pak should cost no more than 2.25 per sq ft for your mix. That being said, if you are even close to that with your pricing for work, there are bigger issue to deal with. Get something you like, practice, enjoy, and make some money.</p>
<p>George, making your own OR getting a good ad pak should cost no more than 2.25 per sq ft for your mix. That being said, if you are even close to that with your pricing for work, there are bigger issue to deal with. Get something you like, practice, enjoy, and make some money.</p>