estimating stonfacing - The Vertical Artisans Forum2024-03-28T08:07:21Zhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/forum/topics/estimating-stonfacing?commentId=2294914%3AComment%3A149647&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks guys for your input,Je…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-24:2294914:Comment:1494302014-03-24T12:57:40.372Zken snyzykhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/kennethsnyzyk
<p>Thanks guys for your input,Jeff I'm doing all that and I'm having great success with spider lath and their nail gun Nathans right its the only way to go cuts prep time in half highly recommend it.I also have a mixer only use bucket and drill for small jobs.For the lower priced jobs $12 sqft that I get I average about an inch recess on the stones and they love it but its frustrating to not be paid for what I can really do so until I find the right client who wants nice and will pay I'll have…</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your input,Jeff I'm doing all that and I'm having great success with spider lath and their nail gun Nathans right its the only way to go cuts prep time in half highly recommend it.I also have a mixer only use bucket and drill for small jobs.For the lower priced jobs $12 sqft that I get I average about an inch recess on the stones and they love it but its frustrating to not be paid for what I can really do so until I find the right client who wants nice and will pay I'll have to do MORE cheaper jobs.And thanks for your sq.ft info country boy,I wish I could get paid what I'm worth but we have a saying up here,you can come in for cheap and get some work or hold out and be unemployed.And thats with all trades .Thats what the mason's are doing here, hanging cultured stone dirt cheap.And I do plan on getting the courses as soon as I build up some profits,right now living job to job and its been a looooong winter today its not getting out of the 20's and gonna snow on Wednesday ! I should move,lol anyway thanks for your replies.</p> CountryBoy said:
By the wa…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-24:2294914:Comment:1496932014-03-24T12:13:56.313Zken snyzykhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/kennethsnyzyk
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>CountryBoy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://verticalartisans.ning.com/forum/topics/estimating-stonfacing#2294914Comment149647"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>By the way take advantage of the vertical artisan courses it will pay off on your first job </p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>CountryBoy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://verticalartisans.ning.com/forum/topics/estimating-stonfacing#2294914Comment149647"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>By the way take advantage of the vertical artisan courses it will pay off on your first job </p>
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</blockquote> By the way take advantag…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-24:2294914:Comment:1496472014-03-24T11:01:37.408ZCountryBoyhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/FernandoMagal
<p>By the way take advantage of the vertical artisan courses it will pay off on your first job </p>
<p>I recommend . . .</p>
<p>By the way take advantage of the vertical artisan courses it will pay off on your first job </p>
<p>I recommend . . .</p> Hi Ken
Don't worry if …tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-24:2294914:Comment:1493542014-03-24T03:57:34.759ZCountryBoyhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/FernandoMagal
<p>Hi Ken </p>
<p>Don't worry if the masonry guys can do the veneer stone for $12.00 p SF</p>
<p>Your price as $ 18.00 is great , remember that the carving stone has advantages .</p>
<p>Light weight , Durability , Customize colors , Customize texture and so on .</p>
<p>What I've learned so far , that each artisan depend on the skill level will charge what he thinks he is worth .</p>
<p>So lets go to the basic on how to get a …</p>
<p>Hi Ken </p>
<p>Don't worry if the masonry guys can do the veneer stone for $12.00 p SF</p>
<p>Your price as $ 18.00 is great , remember that the carving stone has advantages .</p>
<p>Light weight , Durability , Customize colors , Customize texture and so on .</p>
<p>What I've learned so far , that each artisan depend on the skill level will charge what he thinks he is worth .</p>
<p>So lets go to the basic on how to get a number per SF</p>
<p>Cost of material </p>
<p>Cost of labor </p>
<p>add 50% on top for profit and overhead </p>
<p>Here you have your price per SF, I know a company here in Dallas, TX that charges about $ 60.00 P/SF on all Rock carved work ( metal latch , scratch quote , Carving quote and Paint ) </p>
<p>So the main question is how much is your skills worth ? </p>
<p>Good Luck Ken</p>
<p></p> Nathan,
Does spider lath work…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-23:2294914:Comment:1496792014-03-23T21:11:17.028ZJeff Toblerhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/JeffTobler
<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Does spider lath work well on irregular shaped rebar structures. I see a lot of reference to it, but have yet to try it.</p>
<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Does spider lath work well on irregular shaped rebar structures. I see a lot of reference to it, but have yet to try it.</p> METAL LATH IS OUT... use Spid…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-23:2294914:Comment:1494022014-03-23T17:59:40.897ZNathan Giffin Vertical Artisanshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/3ucr8q1tge3t5
<p>METAL LATH IS OUT... use Spider lath for stone facing ... the benefits are long... </p>
<p>METAL LATH IS OUT... use Spider lath for stone facing ... the benefits are long... </p> Ken,
In your previous posts y…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-23:2294914:Comment:1496032014-03-23T14:41:12.742ZJeff Toblerhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/JeffTobler
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>In your previous posts you have said the folks in R.I. are really cost conscious. They are most likely going with the cultured stone purely for the $9 - $12 installed price. To compete you should offer a medium detailed stone facing in that price range. The less detail you put into it, the more square footage you can knock out in a day. Its not a great feeling to do less than your best, but after a bit you will surprise yourself by how fast you can move, and still create a…</p>
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>In your previous posts you have said the folks in R.I. are really cost conscious. They are most likely going with the cultured stone purely for the $9 - $12 installed price. To compete you should offer a medium detailed stone facing in that price range. The less detail you put into it, the more square footage you can knock out in a day. Its not a great feeling to do less than your best, but after a bit you will surprise yourself by how fast you can move, and still create a great looking product. </p>
<p>Also, look into ways of speeding up your process. Invest in tools such as electric cutters for lathe, power fasteners, mortar mixer over drill and bucket.</p>
<p>Base it on what you need to earn for a day of labor, material costs, and overhead. </p>
<p>Wish you much success.</p>
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<p>Jeff</p> I talk about this extensivly…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2014-03-21:2294914:Comment:1495862014-03-21T15:10:04.165ZNathan Giffin Vertical Artisanshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/3ucr8q1tge3t5
<p>I talk about this extensivly in the "sales" section on my course...</p>
<p>Are you a VA subscriber to the CORE Course?</p>
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<p>I talk about this extensivly in the "sales" section on my course...</p>
<p>Are you a VA subscriber to the CORE Course?</p>
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