Outdoor kitchen - The Vertical Artisans Forum2024-03-29T05:11:08Zhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/forum/topics/outdoor-kitchen?commentId=2294914%3AComment%3A96476&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Ryan, you could also check…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-04-02:2294914:Comment:966232012-04-02T00:33:00.512ZChristian Maucierihttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/ChristianMaucieri
Hi Ryan, you could also check out Eldorado Stone, they have a full kit that will provide the base for your kitchen.
Hi Ryan, you could also check out Eldorado Stone, they have a full kit that will provide the base for your kitchen. Thanks to everyone who gave t…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-04-02:2294914:Comment:964092012-04-02T00:05:29.329ZRyan Hayeshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/RyanHayes
Thanks to everyone who gave their input! It's good to know that you all are willing to give your 2 cents. It's important to have discussions to make sure that we are up to snuff with any new materials and methods. Do it right the first time.
Thanks to everyone who gave their input! It's good to know that you all are willing to give your 2 cents. It's important to have discussions to make sure that we are up to snuff with any new materials and methods. Do it right the first time. we may not have brutal cold w…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-04-01:2294914:Comment:964972012-04-01T13:40:53.034Zscott doberthttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/scottdobert
<p>we may not have brutal cold winters but we have insane humidty and moisture almost year round. this very moist climate can wreak havoc on metal studs best thing i have dun is spray the metal frame down with rustoleum rustconverter/blocker before applying the cement board. about a year and a half ago i built an outdoor kitchen on a large dock that has one end that is used as a fish cleaning station and is subject to massive amounts of water both naturally and by heavy use we used metal studs…</p>
<p>we may not have brutal cold winters but we have insane humidty and moisture almost year round. this very moist climate can wreak havoc on metal studs best thing i have dun is spray the metal frame down with rustoleum rustconverter/blocker before applying the cement board. about a year and a half ago i built an outdoor kitchen on a large dock that has one end that is used as a fish cleaning station and is subject to massive amounts of water both naturally and by heavy use we used metal studs and cement board on this one sprayed the whole frame down including the track before attaching and it still looks great and is as solid as the day we built it a year and a half is not that long but with the amount of water this thing sees it sould be a rust bucket by now!</p> Metal studs with Durarock or…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-04-01:2294914:Comment:966102012-04-01T05:50:17.541ZDion Battleshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/DionBattles
<p>Metal studs with Durarock or any concrete board will do you good. When you have limited space and multiple appliances, block is too big. So most outdoor kitchens (in my area) are steel stud construction. Glue the bottom plate down when you attach it, dont hesitate to glue the concrete board to the studs when you screw them on, wrap it in concrete board, MAKE SURE you tape the joints and mud them good, Jeff is right about the modified thinset for a scrath coat and then go to carving. You…</p>
<p>Metal studs with Durarock or any concrete board will do you good. When you have limited space and multiple appliances, block is too big. So most outdoor kitchens (in my area) are steel stud construction. Glue the bottom plate down when you attach it, dont hesitate to glue the concrete board to the studs when you screw them on, wrap it in concrete board, MAKE SURE you tape the joints and mud them good, Jeff is right about the modified thinset for a scrath coat and then go to carving. You wont have any issues. I am building an outdoor kitchen for a client as we speak, I am constructing it the same way, carving all the face and pouring concrete counter tops. It will last a long long time!</p> Thanks Scott, I figured as mu…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-04-01:2294914:Comment:962912012-04-01T02:16:46.802ZRyan Hayeshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/RyanHayes
Thanks Scott, I figured as much with the dura rock. Doing block could be tricky do to the size of the area and the amount of inserts (grill, fridge, cabinet, etc.). If there was a brick oven or something more substantial than block would be the way.<br />
My biggest concern is rust, galvanized-shmalvinized! I need to weatherproof the entire frame. I'll have to do more investigation. Any experience with redguard or other waterproofing membranes?? I use them for interiors though not for exterior. But…
Thanks Scott, I figured as much with the dura rock. Doing block could be tricky do to the size of the area and the amount of inserts (grill, fridge, cabinet, etc.). If there was a brick oven or something more substantial than block would be the way.<br />
My biggest concern is rust, galvanized-shmalvinized! I need to weatherproof the entire frame. I'll have to do more investigation. Any experience with redguard or other waterproofing membranes?? I use them for interiors though not for exterior. But those Florida winters aren't as brutal as Boston :) i agree with mikey the rat bl…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-03-31:2294914:Comment:963922012-03-31T12:36:32.708Zscott doberthttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/scottdobert
<p>i agree with mikey the rat block is always the best solid sjubstrate you can use on almost any outdoor structure. and my next choice would be metal studs covered by durarock i have made quite a few outdoor kitchens both ways.</p>
<p>i agree with mikey the rat block is always the best solid sjubstrate you can use on almost any outdoor structure. and my next choice would be metal studs covered by durarock i have made quite a few outdoor kitchens both ways.</p> Thanks jeff, I asked "mikey"…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-03-30:2294914:Comment:965702012-03-30T14:01:04.488ZRyan Hayeshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/RyanHayes
Thanks jeff, I asked "mikey" as well, any experience with metal studs as an exterior frame? Ive done a lot of interior framing, but I curious about rust eventhough it's galvanized <br></br><br></br><cite>Jeff Tobler said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I would go with the durarock. Screw it to the metal frame, then use a notched trowel and apply a modified thinset to give your texture mud something to hold on to. If you use the wood, be sure to seal the edges where you had to make any…</p>
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Thanks jeff, I asked "mikey" as well, any experience with metal studs as an exterior frame? Ive done a lot of interior framing, but I curious about rust eventhough it's galvanized <br/><br/><cite>Jeff Tobler said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I would go with the durarock. Screw it to the metal frame, then use a notched trowel and apply a modified thinset to give your texture mud something to hold on to. If you use the wood, be sure to seal the edges where you had to make any cuts. </p>
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Thinking…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-03-30:2294914:Comment:964762012-03-30T13:57:58.113ZRyan Hayeshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/RyanHayes
Thanks mike (mikey)<br />
Thinking of just using durarock with a scratch coat in my bid. Do you have any experience with metal studs for exterior?<br/><br/><cite>Mikey Da Rat said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Never us wood if you can avoid it unless you have a vapor barrier between the wood and plaster your carving.</p>
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Thanks mike (mikey)<br />
Thinking of just using durarock with a scratch coat in my bid. Do you have any experience with metal studs for exterior?<br/><br/><cite>Mikey Da Rat said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Never us wood if you can avoid it unless you have a vapor barrier between the wood and plaster your carving.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks Warren. All feedback…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-03-30:2294914:Comment:962732012-03-30T13:55:38.906ZRyan Hayeshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/RyanHayes
Thanks Warren. All feedback is welcome <br/><br/><cite>Warren Ness said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Im interested in feedback as well as I will be bidding one as well. I have done some brainstorming and planned to use MDO board as sheathing as it is designed to handle the elements a little better. Metal lath or spider lathe stapled to the sheathing and scratch coated. I will be interested to see what other contractors have used.</p>
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Thanks Warren. All feedback is welcome <br/><br/><cite>Warren Ness said:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Im interested in feedback as well as I will be bidding one as well. I have done some brainstorming and planned to use MDO board as sheathing as it is designed to handle the elements a little better. Metal lath or spider lathe stapled to the sheathing and scratch coated. I will be interested to see what other contractors have used.</p>
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</blockquote> I would go with the durarock.…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-03-30:2294914:Comment:965682012-03-30T13:41:43.701ZJeff Toblerhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/JeffTobler
<p>I would go with the durarock. Screw it to the metal frame, then use a notched trowel and apply a modified thinset to give your texture mud something to hold on to. If you use the wood, be sure to seal the edges where you had to make any cuts. </p>
<p>I would go with the durarock. Screw it to the metal frame, then use a notched trowel and apply a modified thinset to give your texture mud something to hold on to. If you use the wood, be sure to seal the edges where you had to make any cuts. </p>