Comments - Contractor Check List - The Vertical Artisans Forum2024-03-29T00:02:16Zhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2294914%3ABlogPost%3A98447&xn_auth=novery helpful....things to wat…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2013-01-18:2294914:Comment:1176492013-01-18T04:34:26.864ZBeth johnsonhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/Bethjohnson
<p>very helpful....things to watch for . I appreciate it. By the way congrats on the wine cellar..so happy for you. I would be curious to know how much time you have put into this project so far, I mean even before the work has even started? Do you have a check off list so that you have all items you need at the job....or by now you have done so many you remember it all?</p>
<p>Is there a program you use to give a client a sketch of the job? Made my first clay model but client said a sketch…</p>
<p>very helpful....things to watch for . I appreciate it. By the way congrats on the wine cellar..so happy for you. I would be curious to know how much time you have put into this project so far, I mean even before the work has even started? Do you have a check off list so that you have all items you need at the job....or by now you have done so many you remember it all?</p>
<p>Is there a program you use to give a client a sketch of the job? Made my first clay model but client said a sketch would have sufficed</p> thanks for sharing this natha…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2013-01-16:2294914:Comment:1178642013-01-16T12:04:11.459Zscott doberthttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/scottdobert
<p>thanks for sharing this nathan .....very insightful!!</p>
<p>thanks for sharing this nathan .....very insightful!!</p> I have no set example other t…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2013-01-16:2294914:Comment:1178602013-01-16T04:12:52.066ZNathan Giffin Vertical Artisanshttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/3ucr8q1tge3t5
<p>I have no set example other than ... examples of additions to a standard contract... It is very important to know the variables before you start any project...</p>
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<p>Something like a penalty clause would apply for a out of town situation ...</p>
<p>You have allocated 5 working days for a project, the client is all ready a tight wad. He says he wants to help by applying the scratch coat ( I don't suggest you allow that ) but what ever. </p>
<p>lets say you show up and the Scratch…</p>
<p>I have no set example other than ... examples of additions to a standard contract... It is very important to know the variables before you start any project...</p>
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<p>Something like a penalty clause would apply for a out of town situation ...</p>
<p>You have allocated 5 working days for a project, the client is all ready a tight wad. He says he wants to help by applying the scratch coat ( I don't suggest you allow that ) but what ever. </p>
<p>lets say you show up and the Scratch coat is supposed to be done... If it was his responsibility to put the scratch coat up and he didn't ... You just lost one full day. Regards who puts it up.. You still have an issue. </p>
<p>If I allocate responsibilities to some one not under my control I may insert a clause to protect me from that kind of nonsense. </p>
<p>Or I may just walk.... I have never given a deposit back and walked but there was one time I was very close to doing just that.</p>
<p>There was one contractor / home owner who played the game very well.... he knew how much money you had, he assessed you situation by certain questions he asked. He knew if he manipulated me and got me deep enough into the project that I had to finish because it would be more painful to walk. This happened gradually first the draws got smaller and took longer to get. Be fore I knew it I was so far under the gun that I had to finish before I got paid even earlier draws.... I hated the control and manipulation ... all the while he was changing crap and adding little things to the show as if I had to stay in his good graces to see it through....</p>
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<p>It is very hard to see some of this coming ... THATS why when something arises you must deal with it promptly and quickly.... avert the disaster.... Do not just forget about it... because you may be getting set up...deeper and deeper into the project exposing you more and more to risk...</p>
<p>Stick to the agreement and be ready to walk off until things are right... its a very stand up move ......</p>
<p>One time I had a guy simply tell me that I was gonna do two more sections or I would never see the deposit... I was completely blown away by the outrageous suggestion.... </p>
<p>I didn't have the nerve to walk so I did it... Lost money on it too. It infuriated me.... I gave it to God and walked.</p>
<p>As I was cleaning up the invironment I happened to look at his book shelf.... It was filled with books on manipulation and how to never loss and argument. I was out gunned before I knew it... </p>
<p>It has been a habit of mine for many years now to look around and study the environment and pick up clues to the character of a person.... </p>
<p>Hope this helps ..... its a small percentage of people that pull this kind of crap but their out there.</p> So what does a contract you w…tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2013-01-16:2294914:Comment:1177612013-01-16T03:02:55.727ZBeth johnsonhttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/Bethjohnson
<p>So what does a contract you would use for this type of work look like? Is it a" homemade" thing?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Beth</p>
<p>So what does a contract you would use for this type of work look like? Is it a" homemade" thing?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Beth</p> nice list! one def to be used!tag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-05-05:2294914:Comment:983262012-05-05T22:36:27.554Zscott doberthttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/scottdobert
<p>nice list! one def to be used!</p>
<p>nice list! one def to be used!</p> Thank's Mastertag:verticalartisans.ning.com,2012-05-05:2294914:Comment:983222012-05-05T20:53:42.647ZTimahttp://verticalartisans.ning.com/profile/Tima
<p>Thank's Master</p>
<p>Thank's Master</p>