First Stages of Rock Walls

Hi guys, I sure would appreciate some input from you pros! The indoor pool building is constructed of masonry. I am applying 4" of foam that is tied back to the wall and we are going to "shape" the foam into the rough rock formations before installing the wire netting. I would like to use a one coat stucco for the base coat. This is a locally available inexpensive product that is intended for vertical applications (http://www.westernblended.com/materials/1%20Kote%20Gray%20Concentrate.pdf), it also has fibers to help with cracking. The final top coats I am considering are Tru-pac, Vertifaux or Brickform’s Vertical Mix. Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!!

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Comment by don yeager on December 5, 2012 at 10:47am: Get a chain saw (electric or gas) to shape your foam ,no s cracks please. The stucco base coat is good stuff.

Comment by Ken Bedient on December 5, 2012 at 10:52am: That is a great idea with the chain saw. I will have to be careful where the rebar is! Have you used a stucco produt for the base coat before?

Comment by Tru Pac/Walttools/Don on December 5, 2012 at 12:41pm: Looking forward to see the progress Ken.

Comment by don yeager on December 5, 2012 at 6:22pm: the stucco base coat is great stuff, fibers keep the mud from blowing through the lathe and there is usually some additives that make for good mud,its just usually a little more pricey . Get some of the admix advertised here for the texture coat because its the finished product that you will carve

Comment by CountryBoy on December 6, 2012 at 7:58am: Kirts Bag

Comment by Patricia Roukens on June 30, 2013 at 3:07pm: Somebody tell me how to use Kirt Bag. Please. I mean, how much of the stuff do I mix with Portland cement?

Anyone? Thanks!

Comment by Nathan Giffin Vertical Artisans on June 30, 2013 at 6:54pm: LOL you dont mix it with Portland cement... you mix it with bags of mortar.... who is your Kirt Bag rep....

they should have told you that

Jeff you better follow up with this guy

Comment by Christian Maucieri on June 30, 2013 at 8:16pm: Hello Patricia, you will want to use a masonry mix. Quickcete makes an 80lb or a 55lb bag depending on where you are. The bag is Green and yellow and is available at Home Depot, Or Lowes. If you have any other questions you can contact me at christian@concreteevolution.ca you can also contact Jeff Kirt directly. (903) 279-7525

Comment by jeff kirt/ kirtbag Carving mix on June 30, 2013 at 8:52pm: I send instructions with all orders but I don't recall this one. Please call me with any questions. Thanks

Comment by Alejandro B. Silva on July 1, 2013 at 1:42pm: jeff kirt, i live in Mexico, could you send your mix to Chihuahua?
can i use it under water?