Dale Messenger
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my first try ...

"another thing caught my eye , now keep in mind I am just giving helpful pointers ,by no means trying to be negative! this is great for first attempt, heck great for any attempt, half way up the wall right  by the waterfall- there are two rocks…"
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Dale Messenger commented on Stefan Tschofenig's photo

my first try ...

"well heres my input, pattern looks great, but looks flat no variation looks smooth, make some in and out  ( one stone sticking out more than another and so on) give the rocks a little more texture , you are well on your way tho, first attempt…"
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"shaping up"
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At 6:38am on January 14, 2011, Nathan Giffin Vertical Artisans gave Dale Messenger a gift
Whats up Dale?
At 12:53pm on February 5, 2011, Adrian Gascon said…
thank you for your nice comments
At 11:19am on April 7, 2011, Robert Duncan said…
Hi Dale, I made 3" foundation then set styro seedling blocks in wet concrete and grade. the blocks are 5"x16"x24" tree nurseries usually discard after use. Then glued other layers in rough shape then covered in lath . Then iced like a cake, I sculpted the top then worked my way down.
At 4:39pm on April 19, 2011, Nathan Giffin Vertical Artisans gave Dale Messenger a gift
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At 8:25pm on July 24, 2011, Allan Philip Sutherland said…


Thank you for your good feedback.  I am still in process of entering portfolio images into Vertical Artisans galleries, so keep checking back. I have been a passionate  specialist in this business for my entire career, which beganwith a 12 year staff role at Cincinnati Zoo follwed by 14 years at National Aquarium In Baltimore.  I have now been on my own building up a freelance career since April 2010.   

The AUSTRALIA-WILD EXTREMES project was the largest effort to date...It took about 5 years total, beginning with conceptual development efforts involving an in-house team along with the architect Chermayeff, Sollogub and Poole.  We worked intensively for about 3 years honing the concepts and detailing construction documents, models, traveling to Australia for images, etc...  The actual construction took about 2 years from groundbreaking to opening day; Cemrock was awarded the bid for exhibit fabrication, and I worked on-site with their excellent crew virtually every day as project art director and quality control fanatic.  The Aquarium really got their A-Team for this project, and orchestrating a good rapport between Client and Contractor was insturmental in getting such a high degree of quality in the work, as you can see. 

Once their contract was up, there was still all manner of detailing and puch-out which needed to happen.  I hired a small but tight crew of local artistis/craftspeople and we ground ourselves into the dirt completing everything for grand opening.  I was literally finishing up the Aboriginal Rock Paintings during Aquarium member preview tours, and included a few random visitor's hand prints as painted elements in the rock art gallery.

It's good to be part of this forum, and I look forward to making contacts with colleauges from all around.  Hopefully we may be able to meet up together in a working situation somewhere down the road.


-Allan S.

Allan Sutherland Studios, LLC

At 2:58pm on February 11, 2012, Ken Tywoniw said…

I was having a good time there when ZAP we got cut off! Good to befriend you, thanks for the invite!

At 10:00pm on February 11, 2012, CountryBoy said…

Hi  Dale   great  work, Nice pictures  of your rocks     , I   wish  you the best  .  Hope see you soon  in  one of Nathan's  Classes.

At 7:09am on February 14, 2012, Jeff Tobler said…

Dale, saw that you were looking for a foam supplier. These folks manufacture it in the Atlanta area, ship anywhere and have great prices. Typically a 12" x 48" x 96" piece is about $50.00. They also have a computer guided lathe and with a CAD file can fabricate any shape or design you submit.


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